The bottom of the club is more rounded and the bottom grooves starts slightly higher on the face. This would be the same for Mizuno drivers and fairway woods. I then compared ourdiscoungolf counterfeits to the real clubs at the local Las Vegas golf store which sells Taylormade. Their website claims they have been in business since 2006, however, this url was just put online March 13 of 2009. Counterfeit Titleist AP2 712 Iron Set. They appeat to be genuine as prices are not that cheap, but good deals are currently being offered on various irons etc. I dont know the reason why I cant subscribe to it. The shaft is chipping away as if the shiny element is some sort of coating and not actual steel. Bill Phone Ext. All clubs are made in china. Anyone dealt with buycheapgolf.com? Mizuno Please ring our free phone number but it would be helpful if you can speak Mandarin.. and is also protected by China and its international copyright laws. Notice the word China! So, I bought a set of Calloways from GolfWholesale18. * Company sales in 2002 must be $100,000 or greater; 2006 sales must not exceed $1 billion Anybody done business with tincup_golfstore on e-bay. I understand that the ones on 2ndSwing are generally accepted to be authentic. As you can see, the graphics are a good bit different on the top shaft which is the counterfeit. Ping G425 5 wood & hybrid Counterfeiters are not interested in precision just your money. I live in Portugal and the shops are a bit expensive here. mizuno mp 57 swing weight between c4 and d8 lies from 2 degrees flat too 4 degrees upright RockBottomGolf.com, a top Internet golf retailer prides itself on bringing rock bottom prices to all its customers known as Rock Heads. Welcome your purchase.. Ive looked at their Ebay pages and policies etc and they clearly stand out against hobbiests or potential fake sellers I would take the punt. They seem to ship all their clubs via Shenzhen because thats where they are when I track there whereabouts. The seller said the delay was due to MB101 irons feature no offset, a straight leading . since then i have shown my local pro, taken them to a very large golf retailer + seen the local Callaway rep that comes out for demo days ALL of them believe they are REAL they looked, matched them against others etc etc & have had a hit of them. can you confirm i got ripped off at http://www.discountgolfwholesale.com ? I know its been a few months since you posted your comments. Whats your thoughts on these company websites. http://www.3balls.com Then since they basically have slave labor and cheaper materials they can sell them a lot cheaper! I decided to investigate a bit and came across your VERY helpful information. I should have it up in a few days. http://www.onlineeconomygolf.com/Cheap-Callaway-X-22-Irons-Sale-11.html. By All dead give always that they are SCAMMERS! help me there is only one problem with your theory. I ALMOST got duped but luckily canceled the transaction through my bank while it was pending. Unless otherwise noted, all Contents are copyrights, trademarks, trade dress and/or other intellectual property owned, controlled or licensed by Golfskydiscount,Inc. Miura is a relatively small forge in Japan, founded by Katsuhiro Miura. They are easily copied. I also should have been cautious that they had as many as I wanted with any variation I wanted at the same price. tel: Counterfeit TaylorMade SpeedBlade Face. The only way any of the major clubs are included in any form of sale is when the manufacturer informs the retailer that they want to put certain items on sale, possibly to clear inventory. A very strong rubber smell. ok guys need some advice and some professional know how.so i found this site that i didnt see in any of the comments above. Country: Hong Kong It has been up since 1999. http://locator.callawaygolf.com/global/en-us/callaway/callaway-authorized-online-retailers.html, anybody heard about luckygolf18.com? Althoughironically many are funded by Taiwanese investorsinteresting huh. The majority of these counterfeiters do not produce left hand models. Do you believe it? Like someone above commented, our sweet spot is getting closeouts, overstocks, and liquidation goods that we can sell at significant discounts. Were paying for sdvertising and PGA pros with all that club money!! Started Thursday at 04:13 AM, By That is generally a red flag for fakes. It arrived within three days, is in great condition for the amount I paid for it ($50) and plays exactly the same as the one I tried at my club. There are 3 retailers I trust almost without question: 3Balls, Rock Bottom and GPPGolf. Any experience with them? Why? instead of 70 gms. Designed and constructed by master craftsman Katsuhiro Miura, each club is individually made using Miura's patented forging process. Because of this article, I went to Diamond Tour and looked over their wares, as well as spoke to several of their staffAnd, I bought a set of irons from them. where is your company based? Ah well, Ill just sell them on ebay when they arrive. I am from Malaysia, world apart from US but if only you all there can adapt your purchase procedure to meet all round international needs of a country, buying from Golfetail can be enjoyable and fun especially when you are at the knife-edge bidding for the best price against the world at large. ohhh & they go bloody nice as well. The answers will be no, no and no. The club was shipped from a San Marco, California address. Bill Street1: Xiamen Organization : Citra Joe Tgib Marketing Inc Admin Phone Ext. His reply was that I should just refuse the club when it comes but he would have to charge me $20 because he is out $50 s&h. Dont buy from this site. Thanks. Nowhere do they mention these are used. Whois History: 27 records have been archived since 2008-01-14. I have already emailed them to let them know, they said they are looking into it. Wondering if this is selling fake products. STEAL THESE FROM ME! Doesnt appear to be fly-by-night. Dont hesitate to let me know if you have any question, have a nice day! Ping G30 irons w/Recoil 95 My co-worker bought from buyinggolfonline.com. Feel of the putter will be different because of the material used. Maybe they should be more reasonable with their markupsand stop trying to sell me stuff I dont need as soon as I walk in the door. Clue three: Prices are unbelievable. Adjustment adapter will not line up exactly or generally looks poor quality. In this case theyve ripped off the RapidSSL logo and stuck it on their website. youre talking about! We cancelled the order and the credit card we used. They have both improved their quality with the edge going to Diamondtour.com. Admin FAX: +86.85228691896 Its wrong for us to participate. Tech Organization: Brandgolfclubs The grips were Taylormade grips but they had the alinement marks which the real club does not have since you are rotating the shaft with the adjustments you make. Club Length: Mens Standard our greed, is what makes these crooks successful. Counterfeit TaylorMade SpeedBlade Iron Shaft with holographic sticker under the shaft band. IP Address: 96.9.170.27 (ARIN & RIPE IP search) The other is a cheap imitation which hits the ball considerably less distance. Me13:21:23 Admin Street2: Counterfeit clubs usually have this sticker near the shaft band on the top of the shaft so it is easily visible. Yes I had read that article previously. Im desperate to get these quick quick, so just send me back any change with my clubs ok? The edges and lines of the club are much softer/rounder than the one on the picture. These clubs look so realistic, but perform so poorly. The headcovers were very obvious. Ive found some cleveland cg7 irons 5-pw on onlinegolf.com for 179.99. When it arrived I was a little concerned, but didnt panic. Reduce the demand and the supply will go away. Carlsbad, CA 92008 If the stores should really be getting products from the manufacturers, then their inventories should be updated and low-priced. Just take off whatever you want, and no need to wait until I receive the goods, just take off the money now, I trust you. They also will give good discounts for quantity orders, and they have about 1,000 sets of each in stock. Recently purchased what was suspose to be taylormade R11 driver for 260.00 a good price and about 30-50 less than ebay from supplycheapgolf.com website, total counterfeit had it checked out by Edwin Watts Golf store, and the only way I found out was when I went to make loft adjustment set screw would not tighten clubhead back onto shaft, and I noticied this the first day I received the club originating from China, immediately contacted website via email, phone number does not work and have been getting runaround ever since, avoid this website as it is nothing more than a fraudulent website making money selling counterfeit clubs, hope no one else gets burned like I did. Can someone explain how a respected retailer can cut supposedly fixed prices??????? Can you order me a full set of Titleist woods and irons, some Vokey wedges and a Scotty Cameron putter and Ill pay you later when I next see you in the street. I have to ask myself why that is. Outlaw Golf Association Member #7, Congrats! I would highly recommend GlobalGolf to anyone. Sorry to say, very screw. I actually called them regading the callaway wedge I bought after I read this article and the person who I was talking to assured me that they deal directly with manufacturers and they sent me the link http://www.callawaygolf.com/authorized-retailers/ and I see budgetgolf.com them in authorized retails list. I visited a dealer at a flea market where he displayed a sign claiming to be an ADAMS distributre, but offered to sell a set of A12OS irons at a wholesale price. Great customer service. tome will tell, > i just recently bought 2 wedges(51,55) from 2nd swing, they were listed as mint. I immediately sent a strongly worded email to the contact who had confirmed my order, and then phoned my bank to ask for their advice. So I sold the set I had just purchased with the intention of getting a new set with the changes already made. I am specifically looking at eBay listings (Yes, I know that the only way to guarantee authenticity is to buy new from an authorized dealer), > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Miura-K-grind-Forged-1957-wedge-set-52-56-and-60-/254191423140?_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l44720&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true. Looking for Callaway x-24s. The fake, here, is on the left note how the number 9 denoting the loft is a slightly different font and how Callaway written on the side is less defined. If I shop around and find a price that is way to low for the same item. disclaims any and all warranties, expressed or implied, for any merchandise offered on this site. Cheers! The clubs are totally unplayable!!! I confronted topmallgolf with this fact and they refunded $150 out of the $399 I paid. Just wanting to make sure. I have just ordered $2000 worth of clubs from them. But if I did that, then I wouldnt have the money to golf for quit some time LOL. Heres what we know about golfdiscounting.com: * is a contact on the whois record of 119 domains The business is a household name in the golfing community and enjoys an impressive level of customer acknowledgement. Nick. Thank you! Fake clubs will look like it is lasered on, but the writing will be much larger and a lot of times will only be on one club. But great deals are very rare because of MAP pricing. the site is called perfect outdoor game. Requiring a retailer to have a fixed price is asking for clones or gray market items. cancel order let me know if you are still interested in our clubs I consider these to be authentic. Read through some of the FAQs for example: Q. Are they genuine. Also another website that looks alot like the Golf Clubs Off site is golfbigdiscount.com. Most counterfeit clubs will have a much larger font for the serial numbers than what is on the authentic clubs. OK as stated, some more feedback after 36 holes. Completed transaction before finding this site but havent received clubs yet. Removable weights may not line up properly as in the picture below. authentic gear at bargain prices. PS Sorry I took so long to come back on this Paypal disute but I didnt think my original comments had been shown. The KM 700 irons are truly works of art. Arrived promptly, managed to view and test the set. Callaway definitely does not, as they have a prominent list of their authorized Internet dealers on their web site. To be fair here is the scoop on RBG the blurb is from manta.com small business site. All sounds bogus to me. * Must have positive job growth between 2002 and 2006 Do they sell senior flex shafts? I say this because Ive bought from other eBay shops that simply toss the club in the box with no padding and ship it off (and they wonder why they get complaints about damaged clubs). Hey i just bought a set a Vega irons off ebay for $700, just wondering if thats sounds to good, i think retail is like 1200. Creation Date: 1999-04-07 And the lure of us wanting something for next to nothing, ie. The deals seem a little too good to be true? I understand your concern, please kindly notice that all the items are OEM products and brand new with high quality. Eric 09:54:11 I would be interested to hear your experience with them as well as any other people that have bought from garagesalegolf. )-: I have a high handicap. No reply yet, however dont know how much weight an affirmative answer will hold. Let me tell you what! At first I thought "maybe" on eBay with the almost $300 buy it now, but it smelled fishy. The clubs were not rediculously under priced but very weary now. Though the U.S. economy loses out on the input, both direct and indirect of that production in the U.S. GDP, then the U.S. government is sent to spend millions in resources to protect the companies ability to do so. Hope no one flags me for it. Domain Name : golfleading.com And iron setsshewwww fogetaboutit! If he will not give that to me I would suggest staying away from purchasing from this individual. This is a Q&A from there site Q: Why your prices are much lower than other websites? 4-PW composition. Your best option is to get your money back from PayPal. I am ready to do WAR!!! lauren im sorry, bad newsive done my research and this website ships directly from factory out of chinaunfortunately, its a scam. must be counterfiets? Suno Golf yet another Chinese rip off company. I bought a D2 Titleist online. Expiration Date:2010-05-27 Heres an example of a golf store that sold many products & operated out of the United States (shipped straight from the factory HAHAHA). If you buy from the right guy these clubs are coming direct from the factory. Tech Name: Brandgolfclubs From my previous post, Im not noticing the crack noise any longer, but the irons still feel stiff on contact. Hi, just found this site and it is very informative. We have Titlist, Tailormade, Pong, Cabra, Adums, Wilsan, Mazuno, Creveland and any brand you kan think ov. Registrant: I did, however, purchase a Ping G15 Driver from Golfwholesale18.com after I demoed it a few times at the range and it looks, feels and performs the same. I pursued getting my money back through paypal and was able to stop shipment and get a refund prior to shipment. Their sale must be almost counterfeits goods. The colouring was darker than the original, there was no alignment dot on the head, the bezel weight screw did not have the red dot, the hosel was a different colour and to top it off, when tightening the screw that attaches the head, instead of hearing that click to know its on correctly, the screw snapped. Stay away from golfsaletime.com. Stay away. The one on the left is the fake. I would have to think Dodge played a part in selling some of those parts bin. Ive been debating for a while now whether to purchase a new set of irons online or not and after my due diligence, I came across several online retailers. I checked out some of these sites, some of them have evolved to sell left-handed clubs probably from reading this site. It is a scam. I did the DomainTools search and the site was owned by Brad Kindt (one of four), registered with GoDaddy, createrd 9/10/2012 and they show 4 historical records for golfwholesalemarket.com with 2 significant changes since then. The price is much cheaper than other golf stores! Starting around 2013 they started using a laser to add serial numbers to their drivers, fairway woods, hybrids, and Scotty Cameron putters. 56988965 Fax , Domain servers in listed order: Great Post!Whats worse about these counterfeit clubs,is to play against a good player using them, and shoots 72 on you all day!.. Here is the whois info for this site You guys can look these up yourself, just go to google and type in whois golfdiscounting.com and then select the whois info for that domain. Are they guys at HurricaneGolf associated with Diamond Tour Golf somehow? They also sell other Miura clubs super cheap. Are they legit? All the questions will be replied within 24hours I didnt order the $350 set of Callaway Diablo Edges. This has been an ever increasing thing these days. center shafted. too good! They cant give any serial number (usually on Ping 8 iron). plz help!!!!! I dont believe that price is so low and DONT ORDER. While I cannot disclose my reasons, none of the counterfeits return to market via e-Bay or any other sounce. I have bought several clubs from them and they seem legit. So they have totally misrepresented themselves when they registered their domain. Which buys closeout clubs and resells them at 2ndswing.com. Im just wondering whether it is legit or not, Where does Rockbottomgolf.com get its golf clubs from? I was assured this wasn't the case but it crossed my mind. Go to your local retailer, see the clubs for yourself, ask questions, hit some balls with them and make an informed decision. Part-Time. b) extra epoxy isnt really indicative of a counterfeit either, because the club could have been reshafted by a hobbiest or a sloppy professional clubmaker. This is a major concern since the JPX series irons did not come out until September of 2010. If you purchace clubs online just make sure you use paypal. I really like the clubs. Has anyone purchased golf clubs from golfclubsinternational? Details are just not important to them. Report counterfeit: http://www.counterfeitalertnetwork.com.au or http://www.ic3.gov. I mailed it back May 20th and have yet to see my card credited as of 7-19-10. You cannot paste images directly. hey brendon, The worst used club buying experience I ever had was with Callaway Pre-Owned. I am looking at the Wilson ci 11 irons. The nerve of some people! hello, may i help you ? For example I just bought a new set of R9 irons off Ebay they come with the 7 iron laser serial number and indicating thet the shafts are made in Taiwan, the heads in China, and assembled in China. golfdiscounting golfdiscounting Coincidentally the next day there was a bogus charge from China on my card. Tech Street3: There is some advantage though to a higher trajectory. In the meantime, I have found 8 other auctions on Ebay for just Talormade clubs which I am sure are from the same seller even though the email address is different for most of them. Interesting reply in the grammar aspect and the non-commital aspect. thanks for this post. They are far, far away from US!! Thus meaning, you hit a 3 iron, its like youre hitting a 4 iron. Taylor Made have a retail locator section on their website which gives you a listing of the online stores that Taylor Made sell their products to. Will keep my fingers crossed that it is not a fake. How about $850. Surely if they had purchased from manufacturer or legitimate site, they could not sell for such a lower price. I contacted the seller and he admitted that it was not really a Ping and offered me 40% of my money back and keep the club. Im not saying they are selling counterfeit clubs, but the deal is too good to be true and Im walking away. I suppose buying used adds a little complexity. If there is anything else we can help you with let us know. Hi All, great discussion. All of our clubs are brand new, 100% from the original factory, with high quality and excellent performance. simply me or does it give the impression like some of these Fake clubs will also wear n tare much quicker than the originals. I was thinking they might be involved in some sort of shill-bidding scam to get the prices up, but now I am thinking counterfeit. Has anyone bought clubs from easygolforder.com? Whaaat??? If youre going to fire Americans and hire cheap foreign labor, you deserve to get ripped off Nike, Talyor Made, etc. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. You acknowledge, by your use of the Golfskydiscount,Inc. These irons have a unique design with some reductions of perimeter weighting and more weighting allocated behind the sweet spot. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. MyGolfSpy, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Headcover not fur lined, The shaft sticker lists the Cameron website as www.Scotty Oameron.com When I contacted them, I was given the old OEM line etc. I just bought a set of Taylormade Tour Preferred CB irons 4-PW and AW standard steel shafts via Rockbottomgolf.com for $499. And that is a new trick for them to use old serial numbers. so.. The price is $ 169.99 and free shipping to Sweden. Why has no one commented on budgetgolf.com ? Daisy 00:19:45 Has any one have had dealings with lefthandedgolf.co.uk, they have a sister site righthandedgolf.co.uk. Admin Phone Ext. But are there dealers Chinese? What is the best way to find out if someone is legit on EBAY? It gives me great pleasure to reply to your comments that my accusations about Rockbottom are ill-founded and unqualified. Their posts sound like an advertisement. RockBottomGolf.com has over a 99.8% customer approval rating between all the marketplaces they sell on and market in. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google, (your email address will not be published), ENTER TO WIN! Their products can be found at http://www.rockbottomgolf.com and http://www.rockbottomgolfballs.com. http://www.discountgolfwholesale.com. cn, Technical Contact: Eric 10:02:16 No phone #. The fact they say they sell OEMs is proof they are scumbag counterfeiters. Cheers. These are definitely NOT OEM. I mean, really, 1500 sets available cheap. Pinemeadowgolf.com is one company that does this and I have read their website extensively. Three to four hundred dollars cheaper. Counterfiet sellers copy the icon to their webpage, but it doesnt work like it is suppose too. Address : 10821 S. Ridgeway Thanks. He sells this club among some others, let me know what ya think please? Admin Organization: Brandgolfclubs USGOLFSALE.com is another counterfiet site. from the company known address and on arrival to the address given, no such company Tech Street2: Also a fake site. Also wondering if anyone knows about this brand being legit most of the time or not. I just received a set of Taylor Made Tour Burner Graphite irons; should I call Taylor Made to check on legitimacy? I just don't want a member here to get caught with a set of $1000+ counterfeit irons. golfonlinehotsale.com, Avoid Like The PlagueCOUNTERFEIT TAYLORMADE CLUBS, AVOID http://WWW.GOLFONLINEHOTSALE.COM. These are the clubs I am looking at. All, I just see that 2nd Swing has put up a set of obviously fake Miura MC-501s on their website. Email : Billing Contact: maby it would help if everybody that bought clubs from reputable sources would register them with the maker, there would be a lot less legit numbers out there floating around. Individuals that are clearly individuals (feedback 100-400) and not companies. Has anybody had any kind of transaction with them. Take a look at the Mizuno cover below to see a good example. I dont want to take a chance. As I read in a comment I would like to be able to hit the two side by side to see if there really is a difference or are we just being taken advantage of from the big boys by having the product made for say $100.00 and then selling it to us for $1000.00 I am not sure what angers me most. David. Currently you can by a $300 Taylormade driver and get a Scotty Cameron putter free. I asked if they hold accounts for the approved purchased of golf clubs from the manufacturers of such brands as Titleist, Taylormade, Callaway, Cobra, Mizuno and Ping. anyone heard of mygopurchase.com. sally. Certainly not in the D range and probably not E. I actually took it and hit a bucket of balls. I have bought numerous things on there but nothing as expensive or as important as new clubs. (odd to say I know) Dont trust anyone without researching it first. Fake Miura Golf Clubs. I just want to make sure that these clubs are real and not fake. I thought I was dealing with an above board on-line company, but got the shaft. I am looking at a sale catalog from Edwin Watts, certainly one of the most highly regarded golf retailers ever. They must have sold every set of clubs in the world. Website set up in Oct 2011 and prices appear to be too good to be true. I get ads from apparently dependable retailers (ie: Golfsmith, TGW, Edwin Watts) for outdated clubs that are lower in cost than the newest offerings. I ordered a Taylormade R9 Supertri through http://www.ordergolfonline.com last night. Sure! I searched on http://www.easybuygolf.com and didnt find much, but checked the whois record using whois.domaintools.com and it was from China. What is your opinion on them? will buy from him for good now with his prices on taylormade products. Thanks. Though I wish I saw it a bit earlier, as I bought a set of mx200s off ebay. When expanded it provides a list of search options that will switch the search inputs to match the current selection. : I have just ordered some wilson Di11 half graphite half steel shaft clubs for 260 from mgf11 on ebay does anyone know anyting about this seller? These were counterfeit Mizuno irons. 059186988288 fax: 059186988288 Registrant Street2: After investigating further, I have learned that the R9 woods are offered in the US market only in a steelhead, which is what I have. I paid about $180 for the driver and $125 for the 3-wood so they werent cheap. We are in Dongguan. Club looks good in comparison to one at the proshop, and serial number check out. Has anyone heard of this website ? $650 tax in (on top; they threw in a 24pk Srixon AD333 and 24pk Bridgestone E6+ $45 value) Cheers, hello? Paul. Golf Club Type: Iron Set Club Number: - Number of Clubs: 5 Handedness: Right-Handed Department: Men Model: ONOFF (2022) AKA He had my friend shaft them and two of the clubs broke as they loft/lied the clubs(this is extremely rare, especially with forged clubs). I also just posted a video on youtube (click here to watch) where I casually explain the history and show off the condition of these irons in hand. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Almost like a Newport and Newport 2 had a child! Mizuno asked if they could keep them to pursue legal action against the companies in the US and China that the clubs came from, but I have not heard from Mizuno at all. Miura Golf Clubs: Japanese Forged Irons, Wedges and Putters Miura is, so to speak, the epitome of Japanese blacksmithing. Get them off line! Iasked them if the bolts were supposed to stay in place like on the R9 driver which I already owned and they advised that they were. Anyway, RBG get most of their stock through closeout/overstock activities i.e. I found this website called http://www.discountgolftown.com/ I am not sure if they are providing with original titleist because their price is so fxxxxn cheap so wanna ask you guys whether you know about this website!