Could be my aqua sun. I was taught Pluto can also describe a grandparent, so could someone with a Moon Pluto conjunction also have emotional issues with a controlling grandparent? Hey thank you for your post seems pretty accurate. Been working on a lot within but have a couple transits with Pluto coming up soon. @SuHu, as a Pluto square Moon I thought the same. Although I wasnt always an easy child, she instinctively knew how traumatized I was by my mothers death. When Persephone was above ground, the crops grew. This interpretation for Moon square Pluto transit applies to a lunar eclipse and full moon square Pluto. I am a Chinese woman, in our culture, the forgiveness means to never talk about the past. Her words are like cattle prods to my wounded ego. A Pluto-Moon contact can be about a passion, desire, craving or obsession that fulfills that need. You may have to confront what happened with Mom, especially if those issues are buried. If you have broken these or another subreddit rule, delete your post or you could end up with a temporary or permanent ban on participation. This period is favorable for consulting a therapist or having a meaningful talk with a close friend. The dramatic depictions of Pluto with the moon Ive found so unhelpful early on that Ive all but shunned them as they relate to the mom. Moon square Pluto is a symbolic representation of deep emotions in connection withfamilyand especially to the mother. I heard someone likening parenting their daughters to acting as the sides of the swimming pool you let them go swim out into the water when theyre ready, but they know that you, like the sides of the pool, are still there to hold on to if they need it. Your devotion and need to protect can come across as smothering to many, making you feel misunderstood. I love, admire, revere, hate, and loathe her all in the same breath. Dark emotions and self-destructive behaviors can cause crises until a certain evolutionary point is reached. Using your birth date,time and location you can access the detailed reports and features, easy to use menu layout great for beginners as well as advanced students of astrology. Press J to jump to the feed. Ive also realized with age, that contrary to what I thought were my emotional and social preferences, both introversion and an Uranus conjunct N.Node influence has made me learn to live on my own, and *want* it because, being of an agreeable nature, going solo is almost the only way I can do what I want instead of bending to anothers will (that stellium in the 7th), nor would I want to force my will on theirs even if I could. I have a moon-Pluto conjunction (0 degrees) in scorpio in my 5th house. Self-control can lead to great power and influence in life. I felt closer to my grandmother and have that same conj but quite wide. Because of this I have trouble truly giving for the heart. Ive discussed Ceres in another article, but as a quick review, she is named after a crop goddess whose daughter (Persephone) was taken by Pluto, Lord of the Underworld. To my shame I did not weep at her funeral. I've covered 12 individuals with this aspect, only one of which (a tight conjunction) experienced an overly-controlling / obsessive mother, and some of which had maternal problems much better explained by a different moon aspect extant in the chart (eg. July 5, 2011 astrologyplace. pluto Moon Aspects The moon represents our emotional nature, our security and deepest needs. The Moon symbolizes our mothers and mother figures. Yah Pluto is a mixed bag. This aspects compulsive and obsessive nature can lead to problems with diet, substance abuse, or bigotry in the form of racism or other phobias. I rather like Moon/Saturn, anyone whos been a parent knows that you need a mix of both of these. When he racked up a debt he couldnt repay, he blamed it on the government. I can imagine Mary Shelley with moon-pluto themes in her chart given her upbringing and loss of her mother at birth. Life was a lot better for my family once she was gone. And neither she nor her rigidly dutiful elder sister the Queen ever escaped from the clutches of the Queen Mother. Youll have to take responsibility for all your behaviors. Do you otherwise find pluto especially significant in terms of house placement / any other aspect? Moon conjunct Pluto may be obsessed with their mother, have an obsessive mother or be obsessed with motherhood in general. Do you "mother" animals? (that can't be explained by something else). Parenting is so difficult. A good amount of blaming and shaming might occur in the relationship. Growing up, I had a lot of extreme emotions and dealt with an eating disorder as an adolescent. Especially given that my brother and I share the same parents and yet my mothers relationship with him was completely different (mainly because he didnt bother listening to her and put her in her place). Not sure if Pluto alone is responsible for that but meh. 6. [/notpremise] Not even close. In your post, you even credit your mother as the source of all your 12th house spiritual gifts. With this reading you receive. Moon Square Pluto Transit On the day the transiting moon forms a square to your natal Pluto, you may experience an emotional catharsis that enables you to purge an old emotional issue. As a Moon conjunct Pluto mother myself I read this and go oh dear!, was I really that bad? In her early years I found my daughter demanding and I felt inadequate to meet her emotional needs. Is this all somehow the story of Demeter and Persephone? Astrology is the study of the correlation between celestial movements and earthly events, and r/astrology is a community for sharing news and information about astrological topics. Timothy was raised by his father and suffered bullying as a child, but as an adult, he would say that the US government was the ultimate bully. She's quite manipulative and does seem to exhibit narcissistic traits. They have a powerful urge to protect the innocent from abuse and abduction. I have Moon [Gemini 9H] Square Pluto [Libra 12H]. But the orb is quite wide 10 degrees. Thanks! He understood and acknowledged there was truth to that. If the mother's Pluto is also conjunct the child's Moon, then we've got that intensity. The Plutonic mother disregards the needs and wishes of the possessed child and assumes the right to be invasive even into adult life. Excellent, thanks for the feedback Simon. Now reflecting on how my son perceives me other than emotional. Please let me know. I also barely even speak to my dad, who is also very intense. I have pluto in scorpio in the 4th house and i know it makes some hard aspects to my moon, Uranus and Saturn which are all packed into my 5th house. As a child, he was a loner and had only ever had one girlfriend. This is all a metaphor, but you get the idea. Maybe there was a risk that you would be taken away from her. On the positive side, you will be able to purge and release old emotional issues while gaining understanding of inner dynamics you had not been aware of. It is interesting to observe just how many people commenting on this article have the Moon-Pluto conjunction (at at least one of the two) in Virgo. She reframes her own neediness as concern for me. Jamie, do you have an interpretation for Moon conjunct Pluto? Speaking from my own experiences: I have a very stressful relationship with my mother who is an extremely intense and controlling person. The individual is most deeply cut at the feeling level, the emotional plane of the heart. I heartily agree that Pluto can clue personal interest, intrigue or involvement with psychology and individual motivation. When Pluto aspects the Moon, there is a lesson about emotional dependency. wow this is so true. My mothers mom was very abusive, an alcoholic and mentally ill. My own Moon Pluto could be, in some way that I cannot articulate well, indicative of my moms relationship to her mom and the complete do-over she had with me. It provides vivid and detailed modern imagery that can inspire and connect the reader with the deeper tarot meanings easier. I didn't understand the concept of self love or self worth or pride in oneself for years so basically I just became a doormat with issues. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Thankfully the influences arent that pronounced, I am a Libra ascendant and though life has been difficult I have been getting through and have made many friends and experienced many beautiful things. Introversion on top of that means that, even after having a great time with friends, I need a lot of time on my own to revitalize. When They Dont See Us: Europes Indifference to the Fate of the Rest of the World. Or Pluto square and opposition with the Moon. This in depth personalized Astrology reading can provide you with a 30 minute recording to get a clear idea of what the next 12 months has in store. Moon square Pluto is probably one of the most intense and hungry moon aspects you can have. Because I feel like the conjunction is actually a sometimes overwhelming yet still relatively natural aspect. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. If your Pluto aspects Moon and Ceres, you can see how the Ceres myth will be a key part of your relationship with your mother and of your future relationships. An Aquarius Moon growing up with Aquarius Sun parents, I had a stable, loving, and supportive childhood and enjoyed adulthood with them. control through guilt or manipulation). A good example of this is the talk show host who knows exactly what the public wants to ask of his guests and can fish the information out of them before they realize they have been broken into. She doesnt hear from him that often, so But does also form extremely close bonds with people, like youve written. I have Moon conjunct Pluto in my 5th (Virgo) and could not separate from my narcissistic mother until I was in my early 30s after the birth of my child. As an adult, you may unconsciously mimic your mothers patterns in your relationships. If you find yourself feeling compulsive about a certain issue, the activation of your Pluto by the moon will facilitate penetrating under the . Add in Ceres theme of resurrection, and you can see the potential for hope. Our biggest fights have been on the days the sun transits my pluto in libra, and we make up exactly opposite that day, six months later. Youre only trying to provoke people. I felt dumbfounded, never realized I had this aspect before! So the sub-theme of Ceres is a refusal to let go. . The mother may have left the child no room for privacyand was perhaps obsessively protective for fear of something dreadful happening to the child. I have a moon-Pluto opposition and I really felt. (No analyzations, just research! Yoga has helped me immensely. The best part is you are able to ask any specific questions you have. Mother was never easy, and indeed had mental health problems of which she was supremely unaware. In extremis a Moon Pluto mother is felt as death-dealing because she tries to suppress all separation and attempts to deny the childs developing identity. So Im doing the work of both parents and admit that Im not great at it. Thank goodnessfor Winnicott who coined the phrase good enough parent we are not capable of perfection. It is as if your moods and instincts keep sabotaging your relationships and other areas. Very interesting. Hi Jamie, your post is very enlightening. If you have a Moon Pluto hard aspect, there were times when your mother wished that you were never born or she treated you that way, with such discard. I was an adult before this all clicked and you can probably imagine what an impact this had on my life up until adulthood. Thanks for posting a topic for astrological discussion! I am 1st February 1975 born.time 8:31 PM. Growing up with such a mother could be taxing for your confidence, as you may feel powerless against her will. It containts our basic habits and unconscious reactions related to our past karma and upbringing. I have that and never been close to my mother. My father- totally different story. That has helped me a bit but it was such a rough slog raising him! Although I was wondering if this means that this trait will be exposed in public or it will be eliminated as you wrote, Whatever the case, this transit can lead to elimination of bad habits or behaviors and a positive transformation of your emotions and relationships.. To defend myself, Ive had to use my Pluto, instead of letting it use me, as well as, I think, my Saturn, but its never agreeable. (Funny enough, my Mom has Moon square Pluto and HER mother can be an . If I didn't do what my mom wanted me to she'd call me ungrateful and go on long winded rants about how no one will look after her. I absolutely LOVE IT and its something in my life that just clicks and makes more things in my life connect and make sense.. Im hoping to get further education soon. I have to call my mom and talk to her every night. Moon in hard aspect to Pluto throws itself into the deep-end when it comes to its emotions also. Thank you very much Jamie, I will most definetly take your advice! I am the oldest of three and my mother is bat shit crazy. Wish me luck! It allows others to help you develop your own thoughts. We are still learning. A constant support. My only gripes are the typical gripes of growing up. What's a love language you require that you're planning to/ already practicing on yourself? Interactions with others today can also trigger deep complexes within you that force hidden material from your subconscious into your awareness. She just recently popped back into my life, after the death of my grandmother. As a mother, you may have a phenomenal link to your children, and can be especially effective in helping them develop .